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		<title>By: Jane</title>
		<link>http://janesguide.com/wpmu/janesays/2007/03/19/hormones/#comment-116</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 00:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon, thank you so much for the comment. When you said that you don't expect thoughtful parenting advice on a site where you're looking for porn, well - that is one of the things that makes me feel very vulnerable when I'm posting such things, but yet I know from anecdotal as well as statistical evidence that a good deal of the people who read me are parents as well - and the blog is supposed to be just me, as much as porn reference, and that's what was on my mind.

at any rate, thank you for the validation that it's ok to post such things, and please ALWAYS jump in on the comments should you feel the desire. It is definitely not a prerequisite to be a real life friend, and I'm sorry that there was any perception of that.

The two points you did add were well noted. I read a bit last year about the latest teen brain research (impulse control is the last to develop) and as far as the emotional aspects of sex, some of us go a lifetime trying to figure out and mitigate *those* risks, the physical ones notwithstanding. 

very much appreciate the thoughtful reply.

~Jane</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon, thank you so much for the comment. When you said that you don&#8217;t expect thoughtful parenting advice on a site where you&#8217;re looking for porn, well - that is one of the things that makes me feel very vulnerable when I&#8217;m posting such things, but yet I know from anecdotal as well as statistical evidence that a good deal of the people who read me are parents as well - and the blog is supposed to be just me, as much as porn reference, and that&#8217;s what was on my mind.</p>
<p>at any rate, thank you for the validation that it&#8217;s ok to post such things, and please ALWAYS jump in on the comments should you feel the desire. It is definitely not a prerequisite to be a real life friend, and I&#8217;m sorry that there was any perception of that.</p>
<p>The two points you did add were well noted. I read a bit last year about the latest teen brain research (impulse control is the last to develop) and as far as the emotional aspects of sex, some of us go a lifetime trying to figure out and mitigate *those* risks, the physical ones notwithstanding. </p>
<p>very much appreciate the thoughtful reply.</p>
<p>~Jane</p>
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		<title>By: jon s.</title>
		<link>http://janesguide.com/wpmu/janesays/2007/03/19/hormones/#comment-117</link>
		<dc:creator>jon s.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 05:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jane's post is one of the most thoughtful and accurate statements I've read about how hard it is to explain sex to kids, and how hard it is to be a parent. My wife is a nurse - a wonderful woman, perfect save her questionable taste in men - and has years of experience explaining sex, delivering babies, and in two languages. I'm an attorney, and among other things, have litigated AIDS test litigation, written and spoken about commercial sex - I don't think any of our rich and relevant professional experience has made parenting much easier. One never knows, for one thing, which parts of which message are received or understood. 

I'd like to add two points which I think are further evidence of Jane's excellent parenting: First, adults - sophisticated adults - have great difficulty understanding risk, especially when it involves estimating risk over time (and sexual risk, of course, increases across time; not true of all activities). There's actually some good scientific work demonstrating this (e.g., Dietrich Dorner, The Logic of Failure). Second, there's some biological research that suggests that the teenage brain is not, in fact, the adult brain in a young body, as had been thought. This research suggests that the portions of the brain which project facts in time (if I do X today, what will the consequence[s] be tomorrow, next week, next year) don't fully develop until the mid-20's. (Alas, parenting's effect on memory prevents me from providing a citation at the moment). 

It occurs to me that I may have intruded on a private conversation between friends (I've been an intermittent visitor to the site since, I think, 1998 or 1999). If that's the case, my apologies for the unsolicited comment. 

I don't normally - or ever - expect thoughtful, sensitive and expert parenting advice on the same domain that I'm searching for racy, warm  and sweet porn recommendations. Or any combination of good porn and good parenting advice. There's a radical combination that's conservative with respect to bandwidth! 

J.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane&#8217;s post is one of the most thoughtful and accurate statements I&#8217;ve read about how hard it is to explain sex to kids, and how hard it is to be a parent. My wife is a nurse - a wonderful woman, perfect save her questionable taste in men - and has years of experience explaining sex, delivering babies, and in two languages. I&#8217;m an attorney, and among other things, have litigated AIDS test litigation, written and spoken about commercial sex - I don&#8217;t think any of our rich and relevant professional experience has made parenting much easier. One never knows, for one thing, which parts of which message are received or understood. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to add two points which I think are further evidence of Jane&#8217;s excellent parenting: First, adults - sophisticated adults - have great difficulty understanding risk, especially when it involves estimating risk over time (and sexual risk, of course, increases across time; not true of all activities). There&#8217;s actually some good scientific work demonstrating this (e.g., Dietrich Dorner, The Logic of Failure). Second, there&#8217;s some biological research that suggests that the teenage brain is not, in fact, the adult brain in a young body, as had been thought. This research suggests that the portions of the brain which project facts in time (if I do X today, what will the consequence[s] be tomorrow, next week, next year) don&#8217;t fully develop until the mid-20&#8217;s. (Alas, parenting&#8217;s effect on memory prevents me from providing a citation at the moment). </p>
<p>It occurs to me that I may have intruded on a private conversation between friends (I&#8217;ve been an intermittent visitor to the site since, I think, 1998 or 1999). If that&#8217;s the case, my apologies for the unsolicited comment. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t normally - or ever - expect thoughtful, sensitive and expert parenting advice on the same domain that I&#8217;m searching for racy, warm  and sweet porn recommendations. Or any combination of good porn and good parenting advice. There&#8217;s a radical combination that&#8217;s conservative with respect to bandwidth! </p>
<p>J.</p>
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		<title>By: Uma</title>
		<link>http://janesguide.com/wpmu/janesays/2007/03/19/hormones/#comment-118</link>
		<dc:creator>Uma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 12:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your response, Heather. My daughter was shy, but interested, when I sent her a link to Scarleteen.com. I talked to her about it as a place where she could find answers to questions she may have and let her know we could talk about any information she didn't understand.  I think she is putting off that talk, and I am too, but we're working up to it. If I had given her that link last year, the discussion would have been quite different. Your comments are very insightful.

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your response, Heather. My daughter was shy, but interested, when I sent her a link to Scarleteen.com. I talked to her about it as a place where she could find answers to questions she may have and let her know we could talk about any information she didn&#8217;t understand.  I think she is putting off that talk, and I am too, but we&#8217;re working up to it. If I had given her that link last year, the discussion would have been quite different. Your comments are very insightful.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
		<link>http://janesguide.com/wpmu/janesays/2007/03/19/hormones/#comment-119</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 19:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Feel free! :)

There has been a decent bit of study done on who teens really want to talk to about sex, and it's kind of a tricky conclusion.

In short, overall, teens want their parents to talk to them about sex, and very much want to feel able to do so with parents -- so I think some of that "Oh, eek! Parent talking about sex!  Groan!  Squick!" -- isn't actually a negative response as it may sound, but rather just a way of having that talk but still wanting some degree of privacy between each other.  Most teens tend to report that even when it feels squicky, they're glad to have those conversations.

But they also report wanting, additionally, someone or someones to talk to where they have more emotional distance, or a different kind of realtionship, than they do with parents, and where they have to worry less about disappointing that person.  I get a LOT of teens who report very real concerns about their parents thinking less of them, or being disappointed, and those ones aren't concerned about getting in trouble so much as being invested in their parents thinking well of them and being proud of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Feel free! :)</p>
<p>There has been a decent bit of study done on who teens really want to talk to about sex, and it&#8217;s kind of a tricky conclusion.</p>
<p>In short, overall, teens want their parents to talk to them about sex, and very much want to feel able to do so with parents &#8212; so I think some of that &#8220;Oh, eek! Parent talking about sex!  Groan!  Squick!&#8221; &#8212; isn&#8217;t actually a negative response as it may sound, but rather just a way of having that talk but still wanting some degree of privacy between each other.  Most teens tend to report that even when it feels squicky, they&#8217;re glad to have those conversations.</p>
<p>But they also report wanting, additionally, someone or someones to talk to where they have more emotional distance, or a different kind of realtionship, than they do with parents, and where they have to worry less about disappointing that person.  I get a LOT of teens who report very real concerns about their parents thinking less of them, or being disappointed, and those ones aren&#8217;t concerned about getting in trouble so much as being invested in their parents thinking well of them and being proud of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Uma</title>
		<link>http://janesguide.com/wpmu/janesays/2007/03/19/hormones/#comment-120</link>
		<dc:creator>Uma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 13:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can so relate to this post, Jane. My daughter is 15 and has had 3 boyfriends since last summer. She seemed to be exploring, but not going too far. Her dad says that they break up because she won't put out. I think because they know it is too early to be that serious.  I've tried to talk to her, but she doesn't want to. I get "Mommmmmm, I knowwwwwwwa." I think I'll send her over to Scarleteen.com (Thanks Heather!)

Uma</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can so relate to this post, Jane. My daughter is 15 and has had 3 boyfriends since last summer. She seemed to be exploring, but not going too far. Her dad says that they break up because she won&#8217;t put out. I think because they know it is too early to be that serious.  I&#8217;ve tried to talk to her, but she doesn&#8217;t want to. I get &#8220;Mommmmmm, I knowwwwwwwa.&#8221; I think I&#8217;ll send her over to Scarleteen.com (Thanks Heather!)</p>
<p>Uma</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
		<link>http://janesguide.com/wpmu/janesays/2007/03/19/hormones/#comment-123</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 23:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I took my Dad to the art museum in Tacoma.  If you'd have told me you were actually going to a protest, I'd have made a point to stop by, gal!

But you know I'm not kidding.  Really: heck, there's a lot of families out there wish they had a youth sex educator in their circle of friends, and the least I can do for the girls I care about is give them the same thing I give to kid after kid I don't even know every day, eh?  Please: anytime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I took my Dad to the art museum in Tacoma.  If you&#8217;d have told me you were actually going to a protest, I&#8217;d have made a point to stop by, gal!</p>
<p>But you know I&#8217;m not kidding.  Really: heck, there&#8217;s a lot of families out there wish they had a youth sex educator in their circle of friends, and the least I can do for the girls I care about is give them the same thing I give to kid after kid I don&#8217;t even know every day, eh?  Please: anytime.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
		<link>http://janesguide.com/wpmu/janesays/2007/03/19/hormones/#comment-122</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 20:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heh. are you kidding? I'm programming your home phone into her speed dial for the next few years. :) 

Sorry we missed you yesterday, thought we might see you at downtown protest...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heh. are you kidding? I&#8217;m programming your home phone into her speed dial for the next few years. :) </p>
<p>Sorry we missed you yesterday, thought we might see you at downtown protest&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
		<link>http://janesguide.com/wpmu/janesays/2007/03/19/hormones/#comment-121</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pssssst.

You do know I'm happy to be slightly-more-objective auntie so you don't have to field all of this on your own and so that you don't feel the GINORMOUS weight that is feeling like all she's going on per adult input is what's coming from you, right?

Big hugs, gal.  You do FINE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pssssst.</p>
<p>You do know I&#8217;m happy to be slightly-more-objective auntie so you don&#8217;t have to field all of this on your own and so that you don&#8217;t feel the GINORMOUS weight that is feeling like all she&#8217;s going on per adult input is what&#8217;s coming from you, right?</p>
<p>Big hugs, gal.  You do FINE.</p>
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