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		<title>By: Jane</title>
		<link>http://janesguide.com/wpmu/janesays/2007/03/19/hormones/comment-page-1/#comment-116</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 00:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon, thank you so much for the comment. When you said that you don&#039;t expect thoughtful parenting advice on a site where you&#039;re looking for porn, well - that is one of the things that makes me feel very vulnerable when I&#039;m posting such things, but yet I know from anecdotal as well as statistical evidence that a good deal of the people who read me are parents as well - and the blog is supposed to be just me, as much as porn reference, and that&#039;s what was on my mind.

at any rate, thank you for the validation that it&#039;s ok to post such things, and please ALWAYS jump in on the comments should you feel the desire. It is definitely not a prerequisite to be a real life friend, and I&#039;m sorry that there was any perception of that.

The two points you did add were well noted. I read a bit last year about the latest teen brain research (impulse control is the last to develop) and as far as the emotional aspects of sex, some of us go a lifetime trying to figure out and mitigate *those* risks, the physical ones notwithstanding. 

very much appreciate the thoughtful reply.

~Jane</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon, thank you so much for the comment. When you said that you don&#8217;t expect thoughtful parenting advice on a site where you&#8217;re looking for porn, well &#8211; that is one of the things that makes me feel very vulnerable when I&#8217;m posting such things, but yet I know from anecdotal as well as statistical evidence that a good deal of the people who read me are parents as well &#8211; and the blog is supposed to be just me, as much as porn reference, and that&#8217;s what was on my mind.</p>
<p>at any rate, thank you for the validation that it&#8217;s ok to post such things, and please ALWAYS jump in on the comments should you feel the desire. It is definitely not a prerequisite to be a real life friend, and I&#8217;m sorry that there was any perception of that.</p>
<p>The two points you did add were well noted. I read a bit last year about the latest teen brain research (impulse control is the last to develop) and as far as the emotional aspects of sex, some of us go a lifetime trying to figure out and mitigate *those* risks, the physical ones notwithstanding. </p>
<p>very much appreciate the thoughtful reply.</p>
<p>~Jane</p>
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		<title>By: jon s.</title>
		<link>http://janesguide.com/wpmu/janesays/2007/03/19/hormones/comment-page-1/#comment-117</link>
		<dc:creator>jon s.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 05:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jane&#039;s post is one of the most thoughtful and accurate statements I&#039;ve read about how hard it is to explain sex to kids, and how hard it is to be a parent. My wife is a nurse - a wonderful woman, perfect save her questionable taste in men - and has years of experience explaining sex, delivering babies, and in two languages. I&#039;m an attorney, and among other things, have litigated AIDS test litigation, written and spoken about commercial sex - I don&#039;t think any of our rich and relevant professional experience has made parenting much easier. One never knows, for one thing, which parts of which message are received or understood. 

I&#039;d like to add two points which I think are further evidence of Jane&#039;s excellent parenting: First, adults - sophisticated adults - have great difficulty understanding risk, especially when it involves estimating risk over time (and sexual risk, of course, increases across time; not true of all activities). There&#039;s actually some good scientific work demonstrating this (e.g., Dietrich Dorner, The Logic of Failure). Second, there&#039;s some biological research that suggests that the teenage brain is not, in fact, the adult brain in a young body, as had been thought. This research suggests that the portions of the brain which project facts in time (if I do X today, what will the consequence[s] be tomorrow, next week, next year) don&#039;t fully develop until the mid-20&#039;s. (Alas, parenting&#039;s effect on memory prevents me from providing a citation at the moment). 

It occurs to me that I may have intruded on a private conversation between friends (I&#039;ve been an intermittent visitor to the site since, I think, 1998 or 1999). If that&#039;s the case, my apologies for the unsolicited comment. 

I don&#039;t normally - or ever - expect thoughtful, sensitive and expert parenting advice on the same domain that I&#039;m searching for racy, warm  and sweet porn recommendations. Or any combination of good porn and good parenting advice. There&#039;s a radical combination that&#039;s conservative with respect to bandwidth! 

J.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane&#8217;s post is one of the most thoughtful and accurate statements I&#8217;ve read about how hard it is to explain sex to kids, and how hard it is to be a parent. My wife is a nurse &#8211; a wonderful woman, perfect save her questionable taste in men &#8211; and has years of experience explaining sex, delivering babies, and in two languages. I&#8217;m an attorney, and among other things, have litigated AIDS test litigation, written and spoken about commercial sex &#8211; I don&#8217;t think any of our rich and relevant professional experience has made parenting much easier. One never knows, for one thing, which parts of which message are received or understood. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to add two points which I think are further evidence of Jane&#8217;s excellent parenting: First, adults &#8211; sophisticated adults &#8211; have great difficulty understanding risk, especially when it involves estimating risk over time (and sexual risk, of course, increases across time; not true of all activities). There&#8217;s actually some good scientific work demonstrating this (e.g., Dietrich Dorner, The Logic of Failure). Second, there&#8217;s some biological research that suggests that the teenage brain is not, in fact, the adult brain in a young body, as had been thought. This research suggests that the portions of the brain which project facts in time (if I do X today, what will the consequence[s] be tomorrow, next week, next year) don&#8217;t fully develop until the mid-20&#8217;s. (Alas, parenting&#8217;s effect on memory prevents me from providing a citation at the moment). </p>
<p>It occurs to me that I may have intruded on a private conversation between friends (I&#8217;ve been an intermittent visitor to the site since, I think, 1998 or 1999). If that&#8217;s the case, my apologies for the unsolicited comment. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t normally &#8211; or ever &#8211; expect thoughtful, sensitive and expert parenting advice on the same domain that I&#8217;m searching for racy, warm  and sweet porn recommendations. Or any combination of good porn and good parenting advice. There&#8217;s a radical combination that&#8217;s conservative with respect to bandwidth! </p>
<p>J.</p>
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		<title>By: Uma</title>
		<link>http://janesguide.com/wpmu/janesays/2007/03/19/hormones/comment-page-1/#comment-118</link>
		<dc:creator>Uma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 12:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your response, Heather. My daughter was shy, but interested, when I sent her a link to Scarleteen.com. I talked to her about it as a place where she could find answers to questions she may have and let her know we could talk about any information she didn&#039;t understand.  I think she is putting off that talk, and I am too, but we&#039;re working up to it. If I had given her that link last year, the discussion would have been quite different. Your comments are very insightful.

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your response, Heather. My daughter was shy, but interested, when I sent her a link to Scarleteen.com. I talked to her about it as a place where she could find answers to questions she may have and let her know we could talk about any information she didn&#8217;t understand.  I think she is putting off that talk, and I am too, but we&#8217;re working up to it. If I had given her that link last year, the discussion would have been quite different. Your comments are very insightful.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 19:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Feel free! :)

There has been a decent bit of study done on who teens really want to talk to about sex, and it&#039;s kind of a tricky conclusion.

In short, overall, teens want their parents to talk to them about sex, and very much want to feel able to do so with parents -- so I think some of that &quot;Oh, eek! Parent talking about sex!  Groan!  Squick!&quot; -- isn&#039;t actually a negative response as it may sound, but rather just a way of having that talk but still wanting some degree of privacy between each other.  Most teens tend to report that even when it feels squicky, they&#039;re glad to have those conversations.

But they also report wanting, additionally, someone or someones to talk to where they have more emotional distance, or a different kind of realtionship, than they do with parents, and where they have to worry less about disappointing that person.  I get a LOT of teens who report very real concerns about their parents thinking less of them, or being disappointed, and those ones aren&#039;t concerned about getting in trouble so much as being invested in their parents thinking well of them and being proud of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Feel free! :)</p>
<p>There has been a decent bit of study done on who teens really want to talk to about sex, and it&#8217;s kind of a tricky conclusion.</p>
<p>In short, overall, teens want their parents to talk to them about sex, and very much want to feel able to do so with parents &#8212; so I think some of that &#8220;Oh, eek! Parent talking about sex!  Groan!  Squick!&#8221; &#8212; isn&#8217;t actually a negative response as it may sound, but rather just a way of having that talk but still wanting some degree of privacy between each other.  Most teens tend to report that even when it feels squicky, they&#8217;re glad to have those conversations.</p>
<p>But they also report wanting, additionally, someone or someones to talk to where they have more emotional distance, or a different kind of realtionship, than they do with parents, and where they have to worry less about disappointing that person.  I get a LOT of teens who report very real concerns about their parents thinking less of them, or being disappointed, and those ones aren&#8217;t concerned about getting in trouble so much as being invested in their parents thinking well of them and being proud of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Uma</title>
		<link>http://janesguide.com/wpmu/janesays/2007/03/19/hormones/comment-page-1/#comment-120</link>
		<dc:creator>Uma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 13:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can so relate to this post, Jane. My daughter is 15 and has had 3 boyfriends since last summer. She seemed to be exploring, but not going too far. Her dad says that they break up because she won&#039;t put out. I think because they know it is too early to be that serious.  I&#039;ve tried to talk to her, but she doesn&#039;t want to. I get &quot;Mommmmmm, I knowwwwwwwa.&quot; I think I&#039;ll send her over to Scarleteen.com (Thanks Heather!)

Uma</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can so relate to this post, Jane. My daughter is 15 and has had 3 boyfriends since last summer. She seemed to be exploring, but not going too far. Her dad says that they break up because she won&#8217;t put out. I think because they know it is too early to be that serious.  I&#8217;ve tried to talk to her, but she doesn&#8217;t want to. I get &#8220;Mommmmmm, I knowwwwwwwa.&#8221; I think I&#8217;ll send her over to Scarleteen.com (Thanks Heather!)</p>
<p>Uma</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
		<link>http://janesguide.com/wpmu/janesays/2007/03/19/hormones/comment-page-1/#comment-123</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 23:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I took my Dad to the art museum in Tacoma.  If you&#039;d have told me you were actually going to a protest, I&#039;d have made a point to stop by, gal!

But you know I&#039;m not kidding.  Really: heck, there&#039;s a lot of families out there wish they had a youth sex educator in their circle of friends, and the least I can do for the girls I care about is give them the same thing I give to kid after kid I don&#039;t even know every day, eh?  Please: anytime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I took my Dad to the art museum in Tacoma.  If you&#8217;d have told me you were actually going to a protest, I&#8217;d have made a point to stop by, gal!</p>
<p>But you know I&#8217;m not kidding.  Really: heck, there&#8217;s a lot of families out there wish they had a youth sex educator in their circle of friends, and the least I can do for the girls I care about is give them the same thing I give to kid after kid I don&#8217;t even know every day, eh?  Please: anytime.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 20:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heh. are you kidding? I&#039;m programming your home phone into her speed dial for the next few years. :) 

Sorry we missed you yesterday, thought we might see you at downtown protest...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heh. are you kidding? I&#8217;m programming your home phone into her speed dial for the next few years. :) </p>
<p>Sorry we missed you yesterday, thought we might see you at downtown protest&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pssssst.

You do know I&#039;m happy to be slightly-more-objective auntie so you don&#039;t have to field all of this on your own and so that you don&#039;t feel the GINORMOUS weight that is feeling like all she&#039;s going on per adult input is what&#039;s coming from you, right?

Big hugs, gal.  You do FINE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pssssst.</p>
<p>You do know I&#8217;m happy to be slightly-more-objective auntie so you don&#8217;t have to field all of this on your own and so that you don&#8217;t feel the GINORMOUS weight that is feeling like all she&#8217;s going on per adult input is what&#8217;s coming from you, right?</p>
<p>Big hugs, gal.  You do FINE.</p>
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